Notes on the key concepts and philosophers in Westphal’s extract

Hegel complained that we can know God and not just religion like others suggested. To him religion must be the knowledge of God. His central thesis was that religion and philosophy are the same but differ in form – only philosophy has the concepts for true knowledge need to reinterpret the concepts of ‘idea’ and ‘spirit’. As a form of Spinozism it seeks to ‘articulate and defend itself’ in philosophical argument not hide in ‘feeling.’

Kant had helped Hume destroy the traditional purely reason arguments for the existence of God so no knowledge of God through purely theoretical reason but through practical reason i.e. through religious experience. A key proponent of the enlightenment new religion in which he believed there could be found a universal reason and universal morality he wanted to separate religion and morality. He felt firstly that religion didn’t need morality; secondly that morality leads automatically to religion and thirdly that religion is simply a recognition that all duties are divinely commanded anyway and therefore religion is unnecessary to a moral life. The true church, an ethical commonwealth, can only be created on earth by moral self-improvement of humanity. This is like…

Pelagius who believed that mankind can make it to heaven on our own merits not by the gift of God in Jesus Christ.

Scholasticism was the school of philosophy that thought that faith and reason are harmonious. Whereas…

Deism was the school of philosophy that thought that they needed separating – as in husk and kernel. The core from the trappings…

Enlightenment rationalism was the attempt to heal the breaches between the different religious faiths by concentrating on what they had in common. Rather than their specific claims to authority or salvation their overall message would be available to all.

Hume combined with Kant to temporarily dismiss the traditional arguments for the existence for God (i.e. cosmological, teleological, onto arguments) hence he concentrated on the philosophers interpretation of religious life and practices to the conclusion that these were based on false premises anyway and self-deceiving.

Schleiermacher posited that the kernel needs the husk although it can do without it but we as experients need more than just the immediacy of religious experience and its feelings, but to anchor it in life through rituals and practices. He felt that all people who had these experiences belonged together what he called finding the ‘religion in the religions’ and felt that religious experience was more pantheistic i.e. the divine spirit was in all features of the world and therefore God would not be experienced personally since he was not a personal being but could be experienced in e.g. a sunset etc. These experiences would unite us all. This is similar to…

Spinoza who believed that God was in all things and that god and nature were but two words for the same thing.

Marx’s change in perspective was to blame religion for the oppression of people and explained that to his mind religion had basically been invented as a tool to dupe the masses into believing that they could endure oppression and exploitation in this life so long as there would be a better life after this one.

And Nietzsche went a stage further to criticise religion for its generation of a slave morality i.e. one which meant that oppressed people let the oppressors take responsibility for their behaviour which meant that they were not guilty of their own sin, the masters were. Both these philosophers believed that religion had stunted mankind’s growth and that now was the time to start taking responsibility for it ourselves. Hence Nietzsche’s claim ‘God is dead’ meaning we no longer need the crutch of religion and should have grown up enough to stand on our own feet.

Finally Kierkegaard criticised bourgeois Christianity because it said we are living in the Kingdom of God on earth (when we’re not) and that all that was needed to belong to this k was to be good people. The need for Christ’s sacrifice was gone as were God’s gifts of grace and mercy.

Donovan paragraphs 55, 60 and 61

The objection is a sound one. If there are encounters between God and people they may be chiefly for those non-intellectual interpersonal reasons, and not for the sake of acquiring knowledge. It is only if a claim to know is based on experiences taken as encounters with God, and on them alone, that the philosophical difficulties considered above apply. And the fact is that believers often do try to argue that they have knowledge of God purely on the strength of such experiences. The effect of the philosophical criticisms has been simply to show how inadequate that kind of argument is.

The chief point of the philosophical criticisms of ‘knowing God by experience’ amounts to this. Where popular religious reasoning falls down is not in taking the sense of God too seriously, but in trying to treat it as a form of knowledge, of a self-certifying kind, immediately available to those who have it. Knowledge, the philosophers point out, is just not like that—whether it is knowledge of God or of anything else. The sense of knowing is never on its own a sufficient sign of knowledge. (That distinction is a key to many of the philosophical difficulties in claims to know God by experience.)

But if the sense of God fails, in the end, to count as knowledge of God, what is to be said about it? Is it of no further philosophical interest and to be discarded, like a pricked balloon, as being simply a great illusion?

a) Examine the argument and/ or interpretation in the passage – 30 marks

This is the end of Donovan’s argument and he is summing up the ideas he has put forward in the rest of his article. He has been concerned with expressing his doubts and philosophical difficulties with accepting the kind of knowledge, the intuitive ‘sense of God,’ gained through religious experience on its own merits. He does not doubt that the knowledge is both beneficial and genuine knowledge but his worry throughout has been that if it is only of the ‘self-certifying kind‘ then unless it can be argued for on rational grounds too, it is of dubious value to anyone other than the original experient. Here Donovan differs from Ayer
who categorically denied the possibility of any knowledge gained from any other source than empirically verifiable and only acknowledged the validity of knowledge gained by the 5 senses. Any other kind of supposed knowledge gained by ‘mystical intuition‘ is ‘nonsense.

He takes issue with HP Owen’s claim that intuitive knowledge gained through religious experience is as genuine as any other sort of knowledge and that it ‘requires no further argument or support.‘ He worries about those believers in anything who say ‘I just know‘ on the grounds that this kind of claim has led to all sorts of abuses in the past: from George W Bush’s claim that God told him to go to war on Iraq to Peter Sutcliffe’s claim that God told him to murder prostitutes and including Hitler’s belief in the inferiority of the Jewish race or even in more modern times the Muslim fundamentalists who felt they had to bomb the World Trade Centres to make their point. Unfortunately intuitive ‘I just know’ knowledge does not hold up in a court of law and if we are going to justify our actions we have to be sure that the ‘knowledge’ those actions are based on is rational. As he says there is a difference between ‘feeling certain and being right.

Earlier Donovan has quoted Bertrand Russell’s point that ‘deception is constantly practiced with success‘ and using the prosaic example of love showed that human beings are indeed frequently deluded about the strength or validity of another’s feelings for us. He points out that ‘The sense of knowing is never on its own a sufficient sign of knowledge.

However although he ends his article with the question about what use this kind of knowledge really is he has already answered it in his discussion about the qualitative difference between ‘knowledge about‘ and ‘knowledge of.’ He borrows Martin Buber’s
I-It and I-Thou description of the difference between knowing theoretically about something e.g. earthquakes and having experience of being in one, which is quite a different thing. There is a modern expression which says ‘on the internet no-one knows you’re a dog,’ which encapsulates this idea of the difference between knowing about someone, i.e. what they tell you about themselves and actually really knowing them from experience and seeing them in action. The Old Testament figures who claimed to have had experiences of God had learned about the God of their people and had an I-It kind of knowledge but until He made himself known to them and upgraded their relationship to an I-Thou kind, it was a kind of knowledge which didn’t affect their lives. As soon as God made his demand upon Moses to go to free his people in Egypt Moses knew it was going to affect his life and not in a good way. Jonah too, told by God to go and tell the people of Nineveh to mend their ways, immediately took passage on a ship to get out of reach of God. Needless to say he ended up doing what God wanted him to anyway! With a little help from a whale!

While St Teresa of Avila stated unequivocally ‘it is wholly impossible for me to doubt that I have been in God and God in me,’ nevertheless Russell‘s cautionary message still stands and we are now more aware than ever that there are alternative explanations for these experiences which are called ‘religious’ but which may have neurological explanations or be nothing more than delusory, or may be brought on by other factors within or outside of the experient’s control like fever, illness, drugs, fasting or even alcohol induced. Again Russell
asked the question ‘what is the difference between a man who drinks too much and sees snakes and one who eats too little and sees God?‘ It’s a good question and shows how cautiously we should treat the so-called intuitive knowledge gained from these so-called religious experiences.

It is clear from the Biblical examples that these experiences were genuine for these people and the kind of knowledge they gained as a result of them has had a far reaching impact even up to today. And perhaps to answer Donovan’s question for him the way we can rationally accept the claims by these people to ‘just know’ is by looking at the effect on their individual lives and then on the lives of others. If that effect is good maybe that is the rational criterion by which we should be judging them and they are not ‘simply a great illusion.’

Philosophers Bad examples Good examples Concepts
Buber George Bush Moses I-It / I-thou
Russell Peter Sutcliffe Jonah Intuition
Ayer 9/11 St Teresa of Avila Religious experiences – alternative explanations
H P Owen Kind of knowledge
Self-certifying versus empirical, verifiable